Live coding as an exploration of our relationship with technology Is it worth teaching young kids to code?

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  • 1. joshg  |  October 5, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    And this is still possible today, in fact with a live-coding approach if you wish, with Scratch.

    I haven’t tried this in a classroom yet but Alex Ruthmann’s work (as a performer and educator) has caught my attention. Here’s a performance:

    • 2. Mark Guzdial  |  October 5, 2013 at 5:16 pm

      Agreed! I included the same video in this blog post.

      I have been wondering, though, if we don’t need Logo again. A lot of the needs being identified today were met by Logo.

      • 3. joshg  |  October 5, 2013 at 7:54 pm

        I never did hit Logo as a kid, though I grew up in the right era. What does it do well that something like Scratch, Processing, Python, etc aren’t equal to?

        • 4. Mark Guzdial  |  October 5, 2013 at 8:43 pm

          There are various people asking, “What’s the textual language that students should pick up, transitioning from Alice, Scratch, or eToys?” Logo is a textual language designed for that same age children, but is more capable than Scratch or Alice. Logo is Lisp without parentheses, so it’s more flexible, more expressive, and with less syntax than Processing or Python.

          • 5. gasstationwithoutpumps  |  October 5, 2013 at 9:24 pm

            My son did some Logo before learning Scratch (we were beta testers for Scratch). I doubt that many students would find a transition from Scratch to Logo thrilling—the capabilities of Logo are not particularly exciting to a child once you’ve used something more fun like Scratch. I think that going from Scratch to Python makes more sense. (That isn’t the order we did things, since he went through C and Scheme before Python then Java—his main programming language now is Python, though he uses some C++ for embedded programming.)

  • 6. Takeo Tatsumi  |  October 6, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Hello, I wrote this paper in 2008. I would like to join new research group on incorporating music into computer programming education.

  • […] Logo.  My first published paper ever was at Logo84, the International Logo Conference at MIT, and an early paper I wrote on using Logo to teach music to young children is still available.  I did a post here on all the great interdisciplinary curricula that existed for Logo.  There […]


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